Raiderhater

[raiderhater]

Have been very very red hot both in College football and NFL. On Saturday, my posted plays were 12-3. The winning streak continued into NFL at 10-4. Since I have been posting in the last two weeks, my posted plays were 19-8 for College football and 13-6 for NFL. Look like the Money train starts rolling earlier than previous years.

NFL 13-6, 68%, + $ 6,950
CFL 19-8, 70%, + $10,600
TOTAL + $17,550

Since, there are many people following my posted plays, I would like to clarify and stress the importance and significant in bold and color.

My posted play are provided for free with no string attached. I would like to help, especially newbies, who trend to bet on big favorites and it will be my pleasure to see you making money.

I'm a dog lover, and therefore, 80% of my plays will be on Underdogs and Under. Most of my plays will be straight bets but from time to time Money Line (ML) Dogs. I will not play parlay which I consider this type of bet a sucker bet.

My betting unit is always 1 Unit (1 Dime = $1000) and 2 Units (2 Dimes) for best bet. There will not be chasing with 25 stars, 50 stars, or 100 stars. I don't see any one game can worth 5, 10, or 100 times than the other.

I have been posting my plays here for 3 years and have never had a losing year. However, past performances can not guarantee the future results. Don't bet over your head. I can not win every games nor win every weeks. Money managenent is the key to all gambling. Do not let the losing days or losing weeks hurting you financially, emotionally, and the most importance hurting your family.

This forum is about helping each other and I will try to answer your questions to the best I can. Your advises are also appreciated. I'm not very good in typing (2 fingers typing :lolBIG and will take me a while to write up (especially this one), posted my plays, or responses.
There will also be typos and grammar errors. OK, enough said in one day.

Let's start the Money train rolling. :toast:

Tigertoy

You're an outstanding handicapper, but we've been down this "parlays are a sucker bet" road before, and your opinion on that subject was absolutely, positively, irrevocably smashed by fact-which even YOU all but conceded. Use what works for you but don't continue to make easy-to-prove mis-statements...

 

[raiderhater]

He dogged it to first on a bobbled ball late in the game tonight and was out by a whisker. Can't do that in a pennant race ANYTIME, much less when you're struggling to score...

 

[raiderhater]

parlays are offered by books for one sole reason. Thats to get your money. If you want to discuss something like this it shouldn't be here. People like you shouldn't be allowed to post in this here forum. You only present a negative vibe and happen to be counter productive. So next time please keep your opinion to yourself. You'll seem smarter this way.​

GL​

I guess I missed the memo that made you Absolute Ruler of this forum. First of all, I didn't criticize his results, quite the contrary. He made an inaccurate statement last year, challenged anybody to call him on it, I did, and he partly backed down and partly avoided answering. If you don't like my opinion, don't read it. If you have something that could "refute" what I said, post it. Otherwise, take your smug, incorrect attitude and stuff it up your ass.:finger: :tongue2:

 

[raiderhater]

Sprinky, My posted plays normally post at 30 minutes to 15 minutes before the games time. For example, games at 1.00 pm, my posted plays will be up around 12.30 or 12.45 pm; for games at 4.00 pm, posted play will be up at 3.30 to 3.45 pm, and so on.

ESQAJM, You're right my friend. While most of the people around the table rooting for their points, I'm only a few who rooting for 7 to come. I know odd is in my favor because 7 will come out more often than any numbers. Sometimes, I have 3 points with full odd working for me and when 7 come out, I win all 3 points. Everyone looking at me raking in money on all 3 points and they lost all the point 4, 5, 6, 8, 9, and 10 which they lay.

Sprinky, ESQAJM just refer to to crap table on his statement, Relax.

Iwannawin2, Thank you for helping me out.

tbonestk, You are too much. I'm not that bad

raiderhater, Only wise men take heed warning from other. Yes, we down on this road before and you said " your opinion on that subject was absolutely, positive, irrevocably, smashed by fact which even YOU all but conceded" is not correct. I get tired of explaining to someone that don't want to listen. I think "Redpimp" has challanged anybody who bet parlays and he will bet straight bets and he will come out ahead. Nobody has ever taken that challange to date.

Take a look at dictionary for the meaning of parlay; to stake an original bet and its winnings on a subsequent bet. Take a simple math, $100 bet winning and subsequents bet $200 bet winning. Total winning $300 using straight bet method or $260 total winning using parlay method. Go figure it out which way is smarter, less Vig or get pay more. Don't come in with unproven formula to state your point of view.

By the way, I said "I consider this type of bet (parlay bet) is a sucker bet" If you don't like my statement of my own opinion, don't come into my thread and read it. I'm done with this subject. Good luck with your parlay bets.

VoiceofReason 101, Thank you my friend for watching my back. I do appreciate it.

3peet, Right back at you. If my plays line up with your, I will be me that have more confidence. You're one of the best in this forum.

It make me mad that some people always think they always correct without listen to other people. Let's get back to football. I need you all opinions on these games. Would you think Texans and Packers could stay within a touchdown of Colts and Chargers? And the Bills within 2 tds of the Pats?

Later my friends,

Tigertoy

First of all, you asked for feedback: "Your advises are also appreciated"-you didn't say, only feedback that I agree with. Secondly, you continue to try to use some dictionary definition of what happens instead of addressing what actually happens in the real world: I gave cold, hard math on why parlays, when bet in the correct amount in relation to straight bets, risks considerably less and often wins more. You had the option of refuting that mathematically, but, you obviously couldn't, thus the "my opinion is my opinion" and refusal to address it. You might as well say that your "opinon" is that 10 + 10 doesn't equal 20. If you're entitled to express your "opinion" on an open forum-especially when issuing a "challenge" to people to prove you wrong-then you shouldn't get pissed when people express what they consider to be facts on that forum.

 

[raiderhater]

Just noticed this. "Sewer rat may taste like pumpkin pie, but I'll never know because I'll never eat the filthy motherfucka...

 

[raiderhater]

Raiderhater...don't be a dick. Oooops I guess it's too late for that.

He said he was done talking about this subject and yet you continue

the argument. Why don't you go start your own thread on this

subject if it is that important to you? :nopityA:

You're a funny guy. However, if you took your shit smeared head out of your ass and used your brain instead of trying to be a wiseguy, you'd know the obvious answer to your question: because more people will see that even though Tigertoy is an excellent capper and gives out excellent money management advice, on this particular point he is dead wrong. Now, you don't like me bringing this up, evidently; guess what? I DON'T GIVE A FUCK!!!:finger: :tongue2:
The last time I checked, this was a public forum. and if I see what I consider to be an inaccuracy, I can express my opinion like anybody else-and if anybody else wants to show me where I'm wrong instead of attacking me personally, I'm all ears...

 

[raiderhater]

This will be my last time answering you abusive posts on my thread. Yes, there is alway a freedom of speech but your speeches are always hateful and provide nothing useful. You are educated man, hope you understand.

There are many incorrect things in your posts that I want to clarify them.

First of all, I have never challaged anyone to debate on this "parlay" subject. They all bursted into my thread (like you do now) everytimes I said "Parlay is a sucker bet" and cluster-up my thread with their ideas. Always come up with fancy but unproven formulas to state their point of view.

Second of all, you said you did challange me last year on this subject. I went back to my thread about parlay(what a waste of time), to see your points of view but I did not see you in that thread nor you ever posted in there.

Thirdly, you mentioned your big great math and formulas on why parlays when use correctly often win more, but all your 3 posts in this thread, I have not seen one written down. If you have one, please keep it to yourself, I'm not interested to see. May be you want to give it to your math teacher to grade them. I also recommened you to start your own thread about your biggest and best parlay bet ever, and whenever I have time I will visit your thread.

You're also barking at a wrong tree. There is still a $500 challage put up by "Redpimp" and "barman" challange anyone who bet parlay picking 6 teams a week for 6 weeks and see who will be a winner at the end. To date, no one takes that challange. They all come up with excuses such as I'm not good in football, lets do it in NBA, I don't know I can pick 53% or not, ok, let do it for $50, dog eat my homework, and so on and so on. Getting older and wiser, Barman changed his quote from "If you don't response to the challange, you are loud mouth loser" to "If you don't response to the challange, I wish you well on your investment" I opt for the second quote from Barman to you.

You are a grown up man who does not need my advises and you have nothing to offer me either. There are still many that want to see my opinions and I want to help them. Too much time spending on this subject. Let's agree on disagree on our opinions that parlay still a sucker bet or not, and go on with our life. I'm done with this subject.

There is no any more polite ways to ask you to leave my thread. The same feeling shares by everyone who read this thread.

Good luck with your parlay bets.

Tigertoy

You've already said that you were finished discussing the subject, yet you continue to address it. My posts are "...always hateful and provide nothing useful..." Really? Did I say, like some of the clowns on this forum, something like, "Hey, you went 11-5 but your 3 star lost, you SUCK!" or "You won on the so-and-so game but you were lucky, you were on the wrong side!" No, I pointed out what a strong capper you are. I've also pointed out that you give excellent money managment tips-except for one. THAT'S hateful?!?! As far as "nothing useful" being provided, on that point we'll have to agree to disagree: I provide an alternative way of betting games, yours or anybody else's, and show the gigantic flaw in your "sucker bet" reasoning, which you have yet to refute. And you made a very interesting statement here: "...why parlays when use correctly often win more, but all your 3 posts in this thread, I have not seen one written down. If you have one, please keep it to yourself, I'm not interested to see." Gee, that doesn't sound very enlighted to me! But, I'll provide one of the threads that I happen to save-there were several-and let the readers make their own judgement. And, please, spare me this "my thread" horseshit, once you post it here, it's kind of public property unless the Mods say otherwise. You don't like "dissenters" you can't answer, and I don't like people who put out inaccurate information, so I guess we're even in that regard. To one of the threads on the subject where you were strangely silent at the end:

http://forum.therx.com/showthread.php?t=444266

 

[raiderhater]

:aktion033 :aktion033 hey Raider,

y don't you either create your own thread about your parley or post it right here. i have $5 to spare......i like parley.:missingte

I already did, see the link in my previous thread...

 

[raiderhater]

Your as dumb as they cum, just leave TT alone, no one cares about your parlays anymore. I for one have hit multiple parlays in the past and cashed in big, its still a losing proposition when figuring the odds out.

"Your as dumb as they cum", ROTFLMAO!!! When do you get to junior high school, Slick, at age 19? Calling somebody dumb in the same sentence when you show that you don't know the difference between "your" and "you're" is what you call ironic. I'm guessing you don't know what that means, so look it word up, Goober. Using "cum" in a non-sexual format-at least, I HOPE it was non-sexual-is weird, too, I suspect you don't know how to spell "come" either. The same comment that was highlighted in my previous comment applies to you, too, and if you can show me how it's a losing proposition vs. straight bets, lay it out there, otherwise STFU...:nono5: :missingte :finger:

 

[raiderhater]

Keep thinking that.
It only happens once every 20 yrs and Cards were last yr.
Cards were an inning away from the Mets beating em so that was BS.
It does matter how you enter the playoffs!!

It only happens once every 20 years? :WTF: There was never a team in the history of baseball that played as badly as the Tigers did last year but still made the postseason, and all they did was reach the Series, including kicking the ass of the Skanks. Try again... hno: :nohead:

 

[raiderhater]

U r as dumb as they "cum", thats what jerkoffs like you shoot out and also swallow when your perverted uncle Mr Parlay are together in the basement handicapping.

<<Yawn>> Real intelligent answer, Bubba, way to address the issue at hand. Go run along with your inflatable doll and buy a dictionary while you're at it...

 

[raiderhater]

I really dont see what the problem is. raiderhater wants to discuss parlays vs. straight wagers. personally, i'd like to see some numbers.

The numbers are crystal clear in the thread that I provided earlier:

http://forum.therx.com/showthread.php?t=444266